pollster for obama 2012. barbara arn wine, the lawyers committee for civil rights on the law. and katon dawson, former chair of the south carolina gop. >> thank you for joining me. >> thank you. cornell, i want to start with a fairly recent study that was taking a look at sort of what's happened between 2008 and 2012 in terms of attitudes towards african-americans. it was roeported that racial bis has risen a bit over the course of the four years where americans are asked expressly about black attitudes. we have 51% of americans expressing anti-black attitudement whereas in 2008, there were only 48%. particularly looking at implicit measures, the things we're not aware of. we see 56% of americans with the anti-black attitudes and only 49% in 2008. what does that tell you in. >> actually, i look at that number and think the glass is half full. >> yeah. absolutely. >> but it also talks and hurdles any sort of minority, if you're running for office, you enter the conversation with stereotypical baggage or baggage that comes along with you. same thing with women running for office